S2E3: How to Tackle Tailgating Season

Kevin: ​[00:00:00]

Welcome everyone to another episode of the Reframeable podcast, a podcast that brings you people, stories, and ideas about how we can work to reframe our relationship, not just with alcohol, but with stress, anxiety, relationships, enjoyment, and so much more because changing our relationship with alcohol is about so much more than changing the contents of our glass.

My name is Kevin Bellack. I'm a certified professional recovery coach and the head of coaching at the Reframe app.

Steph: I'm Steph Prangley. I am a recovery coach here at Reframe and a nutritional therapy practitioner. I have a virtual private practice called the Sober Rebellion, where I help my clients elevate their recovery and heal their brain, gut, and hormones through nutrition and functional wellness strategies. Welcome.

Kevin: Hey, how's it going?

Steph: Good. Good to co-host with you, Kevin. I

Kevin: know this is the first official one. Last time we were together here. It was telling your story. So [00:01:00] I know we're working out the kinks here.

Steph: The kinks and I'm sweating already, so you know, it's gonna be a good one.

Nice. All right, so let's get started. Um, so we're gonna do three segments today. The first segment is what's new with you, and in this segment, Kevin and I will talk briefly about what's going on in our lives, uh, recovery or otherwise. So Kevin, what's new with you?

Kevin: What's new with me? I would just say this week is a little hectic.

Uh, wife's working out of town. Got a week before school. I got my daughter who's turning 16, next week and, you know, practicing driving and I'm carting her around, uh, to the practices and games and all that. So it is a little hectic bouncing from one thing to the next. That's been my week trying to fight off some kind of cold here too.

So, that's my week so far, and it's only Tuesday. [00:02:00] Yeah,

Steph: that's a lot. Um, yeah. Juggling all of that with your wife out of town and then you're gonna have a driver soon. That's, I know it makes you old I think

Kevin: it does. It does. Um, and why couldn't she, like, take the test this week so that she could drive herself this week?

It'd be so much easier.

Steph: Um, so what's new with me? What about you? Me? Yeah. I've been, uh, I don't know, we talked about, I don't know if this was recorded last time we talked, but I've been trying to cut down on my caffeine, conception. I just, not even caffeine, but just my dependency on coffee like I do. Um, mostly decaf and I just cannot seem to get it under control.

It's, I genuinely like the taste of it and yeah, it's not like the worst thing in the world to have and I have cut back on the caffeinated part of it at least, but it's just been, I don't know, it's just something I've been evaluating like. [00:03:00] As an overthinker, and I don't know, when you go through this, like changing your relationship with alcohol and giving it up or whatever, it's like you just start to kind of micromanage all of these other aspects of your life and what else am I putting into my body and you know, do I have a dependency on this?

And so, I don't know, I'm just trying to, I guess it's like one day at a time with that too. Like yeah, just try to take it day by day. So,

Kevin: What's going on? Well, because last time we talked you were doing half caff, I think you said, right? So how is, is it still going down or,

Steph: yeah, I'm at a quarter caff or less, but I just drink more.

More of it. So

Kevin: is the goal to get to just decaf,

Steph: the goal is to have less of it. Like, I don't even care about having full caffeine. If I could have. Oh my God, this just sounds like my alcohol stuff. If I could just have a couple, you know? Yeah, yeah. And it's like, but I [00:04:00] just, I wanna, I want the taste of it and it's so good.

Yeah. Coffee is just so delicious. So, yeah, I agree that that's what's going on here. Maybe next week I'll have something I don't know. More positive to report.

Kevin: Yeah. And that's the, uh, people always ask 'cause I have, I drink a lot of coffee and it's uh, oh, did you just transfer your, your alcohol to coffee?

I'm like, no. I drink less coffee now than I did back then because I drank it before to get through the day. Now I just drink it to enjoy it. Um,

Steph: Yeah, that's a really good point. Uh, yeah, I would say the same thing. I used to drink a ton of coffee, but it was full caff just to Yeah. Like get through the day with a, a hangover or, I don't know.

I wouldn't, I would pretend they weren't hangovers. I'd be like, I'm just tired. Yeah. I'm just tired today.

Kevin: I'm just feeling a little subpar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Steph: All right. Shall we move on?

Kevin: Yeah, let's do it. All right.

Steph: Our next segment is our main segment, which [00:05:00] is Shop Talk. Uh, in this segment we'll talk about a recovery related topic that's on our minds and yours.

Uh, we hope to cover the topic from all angles and land somewhere actionable and helpful, and we'll do our best to be concise. I don't think that's one of my top skills, but we'll be doing our best with that. And if you have a topic you'd like us to cover on the podcast, send us an email to podcast@reframeapp.com.

Or if you are on the app, just give it a shake and let us know. So today, uh, I got really excited thinking about American football season. I live in the South now. I used to live in Michigan, and football season would come and like the season was starting to change and it's like time to wear hoodies and the leaves are falling and it's, I don't know, it's just a magical time of year here in the States.

And I was thinking about tailgating and even our rituals when it comes [00:06:00] to watching football and stuff like that. And so I just wanted to talk about. I don't know our feelings around tailgating, our feelings around football season, um, how to approach it when we're trying to be more mindful about alcohol consumption or we're trying to quit altogether.

I just wanna have a discussion about it, just like first, why, why is it so important? What makes football season football season?

What makes it so special to us in the states and like, just why is it so important to us and why do we build all of these like drinking rituals into this, American pastime.

Kevin: I mean, for me and this goes for any sporting event really, right? No matter where you are in the world or, uh, any time of the year.

But, you know, here I think this is the time of year, right. That with college football and pro, starting up soon. Yeah. It's just, you know, I know they always say baseball's America's pastime, but, uh, football's America's [00:07:00] game. So, uh, I'm, I'm more of a fan of that for sure.

What have your experiences been with tailgating? What have you done in the past?

Steph: Yeah, so I haven't approached any of this as a non-drinker, but I mean, I remember camping out at Michigan Stadium and it's a huge event.

It's so much fun. It would be fun sober too, but it's just so much fun. It's like everyone, their cars and the trailers, and there's. Um, like beer pong up and cornhole and all this stuff. And then I, I mean, personally I remember like drinking as much as possible 'cause there's nothing served in, like in the stadium at college games.

And so I remember that being like a source of tension in my body when I would go to games live. Of course, like when I was in it, I'm like, this is such a huge inconvenience. Like, why the heck wouldn't they serve alcohol in this? And then, you know, you have people sneaking in like the little, yeah. Like airplane bottles [00:08:00] or whatever.

I never did that, but I remember it feeling like very, very inconvenient. And then I also remember Camping out all day at a bar and watching football from Yeah, like the, like the 12 noon eastern till, like through the eight o'clock game. And it would just be an all day event of drinking and eating bar food and all of that.

And it was, you know, at the time it was like so much fun. It was so important to me. It was such an important part of my weekly ritual in the fall.

Kevin: Yeah, I'd say mine was more bar related than I, I never went to, you know, I went to a small college in Cleveland, um, and I played football for two years.

Uh, and really the only people in the, there was no tailgating going on. The only people in the stands were the marching band and the families. Um, it wasn't well attended. Uh uh, they got better after I left. Not because of. I left, but, um, the, the team got better and I'm sure it picked up a little bit, but, so yeah, like that wasn't a huge thing [00:09:00] for me in college.

But yeah, even the professional games, I would, you know, it was mostly friends', houses, bars, things like that.

Or having people over my house because I actually didn't want feel like dealing with the crowds and going down to the parking lots and, uh, you know, before the game and dealing with all that, I liked the comforts of our own homes and just having that ability to, you know, we would do.

Chili cook-offs or, or just order a bunch of pizzas or whatever. And that kind of became part of it. But, you know, I would even use things where I would cook, make these, like, have these big long meals and stuff where I would be like, oh, I'll start this on Saturday while I'm watching those games and drink the whole time I'm doing that.

And then it just rolled into, it just became a whole weekend thing. So, yeah, that's how I, you know, that's how it always showed up for me. Um, but yeah it was a, you know, uh, east coast here, it's a one o'clock start and on Sunday and [00:10:00] 11 o'clock finish at night.

Usually we weren't out that whole time, but, uh, I was probably drinking that whole time, uh, through the games.

Steph: Yeah. Yeah, it's intense. I, I lived in, uh, Los Angeles for a while, and I remember I wouldn't always go to the, like, so they started at 9:00 AM So if Michigan was playing, I would, I would be at the bar at 9:00 AM I mean, uh, yeah.

Um, so like how do you approach football season now?

Kevin: Yeah. Now, or, when I first, uh, started, you know, I was probably, my first football season I'll say was I was about four months alcohol free at that point. I started earlier in the year, like I. Working on cutback and, and trying to moderate. And then I kind of transitioned into, uh, more alcohol free.

And yeah, I kind of, I kind of laid low. Maybe I'd go over to my brother's house, but, we would, uh, I wasn't going out to bars or [00:11:00] that, uh, that first year. Um, and, you know, it was, it was more of just. Enjoying the game. Like, what game do I wanna watch?

And it was less about watching games I didn't care about, just so I could drink and hang out and do that. It was more of like, what do I wanna watch and then what else am I gonna do? Right. Um, you know, if we would go somewhere, then yeah, you're in there and you're hanging out and all that. But I would definitely, it was all about.

All about the being prepared, right? E either having, you know, all bringing all any alcohol free drinks I wanted, or focusing on like, Hey, what are we eating? Like, what do, what do you want me to do? And helping out that way. But yeah, definitely tried to, had to keep myself occupied, at least with the what's my plan?

What do I have here, uh, that I like. And, just kind of kept focus on that and kept it small for that first year for sure. What about you?

Steph: Yeah, yeah, that's really good advice. Um, [00:12:00] it is funny how it changes 'cause I think we tell ourselves lie that it's about the football that whole time and really it's just about the drinking and it's something to do while we're drinking because I mean, last.

Like, last football season was my first one, alcohol free, and I probably watched a handful of games like that was it because like you said, it was the ones that I really, really wanted to watch. I really had interest in watching like whatever two teams compete or the Super Bowl or whatever. But it's like just so much space opens up when you change your relationship with alcohol in that way and you're like, I, I genuinely don't wanna be, for me at least spending my time watching TV all day, basically like that, just, I don't think there's anything wrong with that if people choose to do that. But for, you know, for me it's like I just get like anxious or not anxious, but antsy, you know? Yeah. There's other ways I would rather spend my time.

Kevin: Yeah. [00:13:00] Yeah. And same you mentioned like the Super Bowl there.

I love the Super Bowl, and I, and I would like, you know, look forward to it. And whoever was playing, it was just an event, right? And for years it became an all day event. And it doesn't start on the east coast until, uh, like six 30 at night. And. I would start at like, we would go, you know, whether I was like cooking something or going to someone's house, we would do like an all day thing and you know, I'd start drinking by noon and I usually don't remember anything after the first quarter.

Like it was like, I just, you know, it was like, okay, this whole, this whole day was about like, I love the Super Bowl and I don't remember half of them. Um, and you know, like just waking up the next day and being like, who won? It's like, okay, this is ridiculous. Who played? Yeah. Uh, so, you know, it was a lot of stuff like that too, where it was like, okay, how much do I really like this?

Is it [00:14:00] really that I like it or is it that I like that it's, for me it was maybe more of an alcohol delivery system.

Steph: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And when you're in it, it's hard to even be able to distinguish that. Like there's no way you'd be able to tell, you know, while you're still kind of using alcohol like that.

But I also liked what you said about being more involved with like the food side of things now. That would be one of my tips for approaching football season is, um, Well, I always recommend like HALT, like it's, it's so basic, but it's so effective. It's still like that and playing it forward are still two of my primary things that I keep in my back pocket.

Um, I. I like the idea of kind of distracting yourself with, you can still get all excited about the cooking and the chili cook-offs and stuff like that, but it can be more about the food or you can level up the food experience or you know, and then making sure you're well fed. You know, hungry is a huge trigger for [00:15:00] drinking so,

Kevin: Yeah.

And, and yeah, the HALT method is, I dunno if, is it a method, a technique? I don't know what the, what, what would you call it? Um, but basically like, ask your stop and ask yourself, right? Am I hungry, angry, lonely, tired? Um, and that first one, hunger know for me it was usually a big deal. So yeah, like keeping fed, uh, on days like that for me was very helpful. So yeah, definitely use that one for sure. I.

Steph: Yeah, for me, I would say if I were gonna go tailgate or when I do football games or football days now, um, you know, I'm pretty introverted. I talk about that a lot. So I have to do a lot to like gear myself up for that social time too.

Um, So I'll do like what I call HALT prevention, where I'll just think ahead of time where it's like, okay, hungry. I can take care of that. Like we just talked about that. Yeah, angry. I don't know. It's probably, depending on who I spend my time with, uh, lonely, I'll be with [00:16:00] people and then tired is by far my biggest, like my biggest trigger for cravings.

I felt kind of a craving before we started recording today because I've like, I've had a really busy day too, and I'm just like, it just creeps into your head. I know I'm fine. I'm not gonna drink but it, I know that's one of my triggers. I know that's one of my primary ones, so I.

What am I gonna do leading up to an event like this? Like I'm going to eat well and hydrate. Um, definitely in bed early the night before. For me, it's making sure that I don't have a ton of, uh, social engagements, probably the day before and a couple days before, just to make sure like my introvert battery is charged.

And depending on the time of the game, I might would probably nap, probably nap before, you know, going out to something like this where, It's, it's a very like alcohol centric activity to do, even if you're there just for the game. And I do believe you can enjoy it without [00:17:00] drinking, but it doesn't change the fact.

Like we were just talking about how, you know, we pretty much used football as an excuse to drink and you know, we were just like pretending it was about the football. I mean, that's still how it is in the culture. You know?

Kevin: Yeah, it definitely is. Yeah, you, you said about angry. Uh, I was, and when you said that, I kind of laughed in my head 'cause I, I was, I'm no longer, uh, I was a Browns fan for many years, um, you know, since moving out here until recently.

But you wanna talk about, you wanna be angry when you're enjoying football. Have a team like the Browns as you're, as the team you're rooting for, uh, or the lions. Or the lines. There you go. Okay. Uh, yeah. God. Wow. We are wrong people to talk about that. Yeah, that's funny. Um, but you know, like a couple other things too that I think are helpful.

Like if you're tailgating or, just over, over someone's house or at a bar, two things in particular stand out to [00:18:00] me and it's like, It's helpful if you tell somebody what your plan is. If you have a friend or someone who you can be like Hey, I'm, I, am I.

Not drinking much these days. I'm cutting back or I'm not drinking. So just so you know. Um, but having support from somebody, whether that's like feed you alcohol free drinks, or, um, know, just, just be there to watch out for you is so helpful.

But also, that first year I would, uh, I should have brought 'em up here with me for the video, but, uh, you know, I got, you can picture like the Yeti can holders or, the Yeti, or any kind of thermos, uh, you know, tumblers or drinks, like anything that I could pop a can into and, and close up and just walk around with that so people can't see what I was drinking, uh, or, or didn't know.

Or if it's a solo cup or something like that, you could pour anything in there. Right. And nobody knows or nobody cares. So having that kind of stuff available if you're not super comfortable with it too, to be able [00:19:00] to, Hey, I'm just gonna pour this seltzer the, or you know, this, uh, sparkling water or alcohol free beer or, you know, whatever into it, um, can be very helpful to, Hey, I, I called it my security blanket that, that first year when I went to places like that, um, And obviously if you're going into a stadium or something, you can't have those, you know, those types of things.

But, I think a lot of places now also have an AF option so always look out for that too.

Steph: Yeah, they're getting a lot better about that. Um, even we, I live in Greenville, South Carolina. We have a teeny tiny baseball park. I don't know what the like leagues are called, but it's really small.

It's really fun. We love going and this guy, like this bartender, like ran and hunted down some zero proof beer for me. I just asked him if he had any, I'm like, I'm not a drinker, you know? And he's like, yeah, oh my God, I can get that for you. And he like sprinted to the back and, you know, and yeah, brought like a six pack up.

[00:20:00] Um, I also, I like the advice of, of telling someone, and I know it can feel scary, especially in the beginning, but. It's so helpful, and I don't know if you're at a party or even if you're at a tailgate or something, there's probably someone else there who's like, oh, I'm not drinking today either. Yeah, like it happens so much more than I ever expected it to because we walk around assuming everyone drinks like we do, and would never turn down the opportunity to drink.

And that just isn't. Isn't the way it is, you know?

Kevin: Yeah, I've been pleasantly surprised by that too. Hearing, just from hearing people say like, I was so worried about telling my friend this, and I told 'em, and, and they're like, oh, yeah, I stopped drinking like two months ago because of this, or, yeah.

I've been cutting back too because of, you know, whatever. I'm, I'm not sleeping well or, you know, whatever. I mean, people do it for so many reasons. So, um, Yeah, I hear that all the time. So, take away that, yeah. Worry about what other people are gonna say. And the thing with them knowing ahead of time can be [00:21:00] that, you know, it's not like it comes out whenever people are all drunk around you at a tailgate or something.

And it's a little harder to deal with. You feel more uncomfortable there. Just a idea, but you know, you know your friends, you know the people you're gonna be around too. So, you know, judge it, uh, based on that.

Steph: Yeah, exactly. And I like, like you said, the security blanket thing too. Um, yeah.

One of my tips was definitely bring your own, bring way, way more than you think you'll need and bring way more variety than you think you'll want. Like, that has never let me down. And it's really come in handy when I find other non-drinkers there too. So like, I'm thinking back to the Super Bowl party I went to this year and a friend of mine wasn't drinking.

Like I said, it happens all the time. She is like, like you said, she just was like having trouble sleeping and took a, like, did a dry January. Um, And she was just drinking seltzer water. And I'm like, oh my God, there are so many other options. Did you know? And then I like opened [00:22:00] my cooler.

Kevin: It's like, you know, the, the, the light comes out of it.

It's like a treasure chest. Yeah.

Steph: There's like, uh, I don't know. I think I had recess. I had, and I had athletic brewing company, NA beers. Um, Hop water, which I really like. And then I think I had the white widow too, like the, it's like a blackberry cider alternative. So, okay. Those are some of my favorites.

But yeah, I mean, and then there were people there drinking that wanted to try 'em too. So that's why I say bring more than you think you'll need. Not just, yeah. For you. 'cause you always want something in your hand or you always want something in your little security blanket. But because it's really fun to share, like people really get into the NA stuff.

Kevin: Yep. Yeah, I do the same thing. I, I definitely bring more, because inevitably someone asks and are pleasantly surprised how good it tastes, whether it's a, yeah, you know, an NA alternative or just any of the different hop waters or seltzers or [00:23:00] whatever I have.

Steph: Yeah, they do a really good job with them. Um, yeah, I really like hop water.

Uh, that surprised me, but I'm really into that right now. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Do we have any other tips for making it through, uh, our upcoming football season? I.

Kevin: Um, yeah, I was just thinking of something. But yeah, playing it, uh, playing it forward like you, you mentioned before too, is, uh, is one that playing it forward for me was very helpful.

Just 'cause play it forward is like, okay, I'm gonna sit there and think about like, okay, if I go down this road if I want to drink, like if I do that, what does that look like? And, and how does that end up? And what am I gonna feel like tomorrow? And you play that tape forward and you, you fast forward and, and look at it.

Um, And, and also feeling how you're gonna feel, you know, with, if you don't do that, if you go, if you stick to your plan, whatever that is. Um, you know, I, I think that's, um, just a good reminder. And if [00:24:00] you do it once, right, you get to see how, how it feels and you can remember that for the next time then. And, you know, having that experience and just challenging yourself almost to doing it.

And, and just to see, You know what the difference is. 'cause I tell people it's like, right. I mean, for things like this, I told myself like, well, I know how it works this way. I know how it works when I just drink all through that weekend for football. Let's, let's see how it is this way.

Let's see how it is without that. And just to kind of get that baseline in a different direction there. So, Yeah, and you know, having, having something ready to tell people I think is important. Whether that's, hey, it's, I'm doing sober October, or Aha. You know, I used to say, I used to joke, I didn't joke.

I used to say, I used to lie. Then say like, oh yeah, I bet my brother that we, you know, we weren't gonna drink this month, and I'm not losing that bet to him. I I never bet him. He, he probably, he, he doesn't know I tell people [00:25:00] like this, this story, but I told people that like, I'm like, oh yeah he and I, you know, we started doing this thing and I'm not losing to him.

So, uh, yeah, keep your, keep your beer. Um, I'm fine over here. Now if your brother's there and he's like, what the hell are you talking about? That's probably not a good thing to use. But, uh, Yeah, just have that plan, uh, I think in advance, uh, of maybe what you'll tell people, knowing who's gonna be there or pretty sure about that, but, Yeah.

What about you? Anything else that that comes to mind for you?

Steph: No, I mean, I definitely wanna echo the playing it forward because that, that was one of the mind games I had to play with myself at at first too, where it was like, I know what it's like to be a drinker. I know what it's like to sit through these games and drink I, and even if you think of any of the firsts you go through, like.

My first like big vacation alcohol free. It was like seven months alcohol free or something like that. And I'm like, you know what? You've drank on so many vacations before. You know what that looks like. Let's see what this feels like. You know? And if it's [00:26:00] terrible, you can always, like you we're adults, we can always go back to it, but we're here for a reason.

Like we, we made the choice to be here. Change our relationship with alcohol because of how it was impacting our life, but we still need to kind of talk ourselves into it sometimes. So playing it forward is always like one of my favorite things. And you can even, like, sometimes you do just have to trick yourself and say, you know what?

If I have a terrible time and maybe next weekend I'll let myself drink, but I'm gonna give it a shot this weekend. And then you'll find that it's just a mind game. This is how I quit smoking cigarettes too. Like I would get a craving at night and I'm like, you know what? If you still really want one in the morning, you're allowed to go get a pack in the morning.

And then in the morning I wouldn't want it. It was just like the nighttime craving thing. So it might be a tricky game for some people, but I've only found it to be. Effective for me and for my clients to just allow a space between that craving and the actual [00:27:00] action, like putting that decision off later.

Kevin: Yeah. And uh, if I could add one thing to that as well, yeah. One thing that, that you were mentioning there that, uh, you know, I thought about was to allow yourself to do it differently. Right? Um, but recognize that, you know, when you do it differently, if you've gone to a tailgate your whole life and you drank and got drunk every single time, you've gone. Right. And then you go and you, you, I. Don't drink and or if you only have a few, you know what do, it's going to be weird, right?

It's going to be awkward. You're gonna probably feel uncomfortable or it's gonna be different. Right. But that doesn't mean that it's bad or something that you have to like, be like, oh, this is, this is stupid. I'm not doing this anymore. Right. Um, you know, I, I think doing it, so recognizing that, you know, it is going to be different.

But what else can I focus on? So instead of feeling like [00:28:00] deprived, like, oh, I'm not doing all the things that I like to do, like focusing on the food. Like I know, uh, I know baseball stadiums, football stadiums, all these places now are trying to cater to the fan to bring people in because, you know, the viewing experience at home is so much better nowadays.

So they have all these little like mini restaurants and food stands and things like that. Like that it was really good. And, and so focusing on things like that, it can be very helpful to Just find those other things that you can enjoy about the day, right?

Try not to feel deprived. Focus on the game, focus on the people, focus on playing cornhole or whatever else you're doing. And, find those other things that you can do too. Um, whether it's at a stadium or at a bar, or at a friend's house or whatever.

Steph: Yeah. Good, good point. It will be different, like for sure.

Yeah. Like we experience the world differently when the blinders are off. Um, so it's good to anticipate [00:29:00] that as well. So I think the last tip I'll give is just if you can drive separately and always give yourself the permission to leave early. Um, I don't know why, like for me saying you have permission to leave early or you have the permission to go to bed early, like actually using those words has been really helpful for me.

Um, I. I don't wanna get, like I talk about it in meetings all the time, but just how we're so hard on ourselves and we always feel like we should be blah, blah, blah, you know, should be able to keep up and watch an entire day's worth of football or you know, whatever. So for me, just saying like, okay Steph, you have the permission to leave early if you want to.

Um, I don't know. That's just that really, that helps me. Yeah. So,

Kevin: yeah. No, that's a great one.

Steph: Okay. Anything else before we move on?

Kevin: Uh, no, I think we covered that. I mean, [00:30:00] uh, obviously, you know, it's hard to cover everything, right? That's why looking at your own unique, like this is what we do, uh, you know, type of thing, and how can you make it work? How can you plan for it, right?

Steph: Yeah. I mean, that might be the most obvious thing like that we are not saying, but talking about is making a plan is the most important part. Yeah. You know, if you're someone who does wanna engage with sports season and that might be difficult for you, like hop on a meeting and you know, talk about it and crowdsource ideas because there's a ton of different things that you can do and a bunch of people who have been through it. Um, so just make sure, like using the resources at your disposal.

Kevin: Yeah. People do that all the time with, whether it's an event like this or vacations or like, Hey, I'm, I'm going to do this, you know, and there's 200 people or something on a meeting, right?

In reframe. And it's, you know, there's somebody there [00:31:00] who's gone through that already. Uh, yeah. So, yeah, that's a great idea.

Steph: Exactly. Okay, so final segment, tip of the week. In this segment, we'll give you one tip that you can take action on this week to move your life forward. Kevin, are you giving us our tip this week?

Kevin: Uh, I had something that I just thought of, um, that kind of plays in with football. Because I played football through, I played through two years of college. Um, and the day after, we would always go and watch game film and we would go and back and look and replay the game from the day before and look at everything that happened.

And break it down and look at where we did, well, look at where we could improve. Um, that's putting it nicely probably to what they actually told us. Um, but you know, that's basically what it is, right? You look back and you have other people looking at it objectively and somewhat objectively and giving, [00:32:00] thoughts on what could we do better for next game?

But overall I think it's important in, in these times to reflect on, as we go through these experiences, ask ourself like, how did it go? What could I have done differently? Right? What could have, what went well?

What could I have done better? And just look at it from that perspective because nothing's ever gonna go as planned. I've planned out so many of these events and had everything in my head that I was gonna say, and just all went out the window because it just did. And you know, I think it's being able to look back at it though, and just say, if it didn't go as you wanted, don't beat yourself up about it.

Just be like, okay, well what can I use from that? What would I have done differently if I went back in time with the information I have now? What could I have done differently there? Um, you know, sometimes I would've, I did that and I said like, well, you know what? I wouldn't have gone to that one because of this.

Because this person was going, or because it was, you know, an all day thing or whatever. Um, [00:33:00] or I would've been like, no, you know, I would've told people ahead of time or, you know, it could have been anything. But, um, taking a look at it and reflecting on it, and this goes for anything. This goes for something like this or just reflecting on the week, how it went or anything like that.

But I think adding in some reflection, um, to see how things went, uh, is a good thing.

Steph: I love it. I love it. Just checking in with yourself. Yeah. And yeah. Awesome. All right. Anything else before we wrap up?

Kevin: Uh, no. Not unless you wanted to add anything. Nope. All good. All good. All right. Well, thank you. Uh, this is our first, uh, first co-hosting episode of the Reframeable Podcast.

So that's it for this week. But thank you all for listening to this episode. And this episode is brought to you by the Reframe app. Reframe is the number one iOS app to help you cut back or quit drinking alcohol. It uses neuroscience to reframe your relationship with [00:34:00] alcohol and unlock the healthiest, happiest you.

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I wanna thank you again for listening and be sure to come back next week for another episode. Thanks Steph. Thanks Kevin. All right. Have a great day.